We’ve had a great deal of discussion here on Messianic Jewish Musings and also on my Facebook profile about my recent post: “Jesus and Mosaic Authorship of Torah”. Why not join the dialogue about Yeshua?
Two points in particular have been raised, but I think even more could be. Here are two questions I invite you to weigh in on:
1. John asked, “I agree that Philippians 2 teaches that Yeshua emptied Himself of His divine attributes, including omniscience, but does that mean that Yeshua, in His humanity, is fallible?”
2. Michael asked, “Okay, just playing with the logical argument here: How do you know that he didn’t know those things?” He was responding to my statement: “Yeshua did not know e=mc2. He did not know what actors would portray him in future movies. He did not know English, not even King James English. And he did not know who wrote the Torah.”
Was Yeshua the Man Fallible?
John added this to the discussion of the fallibility question: “It’s one thing to say Yeshua isn’t omniscient; it’s another to say He was wrong. If Yeshua attributes Mosaic authorship to the Torah, perhaps we should give heavy weight to that opinion? This doesn’t mean that Yeshua attributed every word to Moses. Perhaps Enn’s other suggestions give credible options of how to understand Yeshua’s view of Mosaic authorship, but to say He just didn’t know seems to suggest fallibility.”
I replied, “Good point to bring to the discussion. I think limited knowledge means fallibility is inevitable. In the area of natural science for example, I’m sure Yeshua accepted wrong notions that were believed by all. Flat earth. Etc.”
John came back with: “That’s a tough pill to swallow. How far can we push His fallibility? I’m assuming it wouldn’t be corralled to the natural sciences. Could He be fallible in His religious teachings? What would differentiate Him from Hillel or Akiva in that regard? I find a temporary limit on omniscience to be easy enough, but is there no distinction between Yeshua and the rest of humanity in regards to fallibility?”
How Do We Know Yeshua Didn’t Know?
I replied to Michael’s question about how we know Yeshua didn’t know e=mc2 by saying: “He demonstrated limited knowledge in other areas. So it is logical to extend the principle of limited knowledge.”
Michael asks: “Have you written an article demonstrating that, or could you point me to one?”
No, I have no article on examples of Yeshua admitting limited knowledge. We see it in a few things. The mustard seed he calls the “smallest seed.” The saying that even he did not know the day or the hour the Son of Man would come in power.
I’d be interested in seeing others weigh in on the discussion.
Meanwhile, Society of Biblical Literature Is This Weekend!
I’m leaving well before the crack of dawn to meet friends in San Antonio, TX, for this year’s SBL Conference. As I am sure I will say at least one more time in coming days, “It’s 10,000 plus Bible scholars all in one place for an extended weekend!”
I’ll do my best to track with your comments while I’m gone and I plan to post some ramblings from the sessions I attend at SBL.
I generally try to go to all the “Formation of Isaiah” sessions, “Paul within Judaism,” and then I look for things like Leviticus and atonement and other favorite topics.